Category: Stropping

  • Musings about Material Removal – Stropping is dead – or is it? (Part 2)

    Disclaimer: This post is probably going to trigger a lot of strong opinions. I don’t mind that. If you disagree with something I state, I’d love to have you show me where I went wrong! Contact details are in the impressum. If you also just want to shout at me because you disagree, that is fine as well.

    If you haven’t read part 1, you should do that. Check it out here!

    In part 1 of this, my good friend Roman Kasé and I started to look into the effect of stropping on a finely sharpened blade. Let me pull up two important pictures from that to start up our discussion for part 2!

    Very high magnification SEM images of the apex (top view) in a Vanadis 8 (66 HRC) blade, sharpened without (First/left pictures) and with stropping. Instrument: Zeiss GeminiSEM560

    I’d like to make a point about what we are seeing here. This is a very high magnification. The entire width of the image is 1.1 µm. Compare that to the theoretical limit of an optical microscope: The Abbe diffraction limit is defined as d = λ / 2 NA – where NA is the numerical aperture, a value that can be used to describe the resoluting capabilities of a lens. At best, this value can become 1. So the theoretical resolution of any optical system is half the wavelength. The wavelength of green light is around 530 nm, so a fancy, 3 digit k$ laser scanning microscope could at best have a resolution of 0.25 µm – just shy of 5 pixels would fill the whole image here! The burr you see on the unstropped blade is about 30 nm. Compare this to the lattice constant of martensitic steel (the distance between two atoms) which is 0.286 nm. So this burr is somewhere in the region of 100 atomic layers – this is unbelievably tiny, and would appear to any easily accessible test a “no burr” result. Surprisingly enough, with stropping, the burr got actually larger and more inhomogeneous.

    For the 2nd part of this series, we are looking at a different steel, Boehler M398 at 65 HRC. This is also the steel used in the vast majority of the stone reviews in my blog. It’s a popular “super steel” for knives.

    As a quick reminder, for the stropping, we used fresh leather strops loaded with different emulsions with the following approaches:

    1.) No Stropping – pure ground edge! this is our base truth to what we compare the stropping

    2.) “best practice”: 5 strokes with 1, 0.5 and 0.25 µm diamond emulsion on leather

    3.) “overstropping” – 50 strokes with the 1, 0.5 and 0.25 µm diamond emulsion.

    4.) “coarse grit” stropping – 5 strokes with 6 µm diamond emulsion.

    Please check out part 1 for the approach to metrology, but also to read more about the sharpening progression and setup.

    Results from approaches #1-#4 in M398

    First, we had to establish the new “baseline”, aka: Images of the apex after just sharpening, no stropping:

    SEM images of the unstropped M398 blade. (Approach #1). Instrument: Zeiss GeminiSEM560

    One thing of note is – M398 doesn’t sharpen as nicely as the Vanadis 8 does! Nevertheless, the “no strop” approach gave us a very nicely defined apex in the range of 100 nm, with very low burr formation. The burrs are in the 50 nm range.

    Next, we look at the “best practice” of stropping, so a few passes with increasingly smaller diamond emulsions (1, 0.5 and 0.25 µm diamond emulsion).

    SEM images of the “best practice” stropped M398 blade (Approach #2). Instrument: Zeiss GeminiSEM560

    Once again, we get a more pronounced burr, which is sticking out further in direction towards the cutting action. The burr has increased in width as well.

    Next, we are taking a look at an overstropped result. For this, poor Roman had to strop 50 passes each with the 1 – 0.5 – 0.25 micrometre progression!

    SEM images of the “overstropped” M398 blade (Approach #3). Instrument: Zeiss GeminiSEM560

    I find the images here very interesting. The blade bevels are much more polished – details are harder to pick out, with a smoother surface. Moreover, the apex as gotten a lot finer – but also formed large, very fine foil type burrs. While we didn’t record higher magnification images on this, the pixel resolution allows us to measure the apex width in decent accuracy, giving us an apex width of about 50 nm. Weirdly enough, this blade was the slowest to grip and split a hair, even though the apex is defined the best of all the M398 blades analysed here. I once again have to compliment Roman on his stropping technique – there is no apparent round of the apex visible! But one deduction I can take from this is: with overstropping, a relevant amount of material is removed. If you don’t keep the pressure and angle under very tight control, you will actually be able to remove enough material to round of the apex.

    Last, we’re going to look at the “coarse grit” stropped cutting edge.

    SEM images of the 6 µm stropped M398 blade (Approach #4). Instrument: Zeiss GeminiSEM560

    One can see that the surface of the bevel becomes more scratched, and the apex rougher. I think the often cited theory, that coarse grit stropping gives an edge more “bite” in terms of micro serrations is true! Nevertheless, it’s the widest apex of the 4 blades, with the worst BESS score.

    Let’s compare the high magnification pictures of the first 3 blades:

    Comparison of (from left/first to right/last) the unstropped, “best practice stropped” and “overstropped” blade. Instrument: Zeiss GeminiSEM560.

    It is clearly visible, that the unstropped (aka: just ground) blade shows a very defined apex, with a very low amount of burr formation. The “best practice” burr formation gives a larger, forward facing burr. With overstropping, in this steel, the flanks become much nicer and more polished – but also refines the apex to a smaller width.

    What key takeaways are to be deduced from this?

    One point that should be made clear: The analysis of the apex is shown here for briefness sake at one location, but was homogeneous and comparable at several locations along the edge. The magnification used to show the apex here are very high, and the blade sharpness is unlike anything I’ve seen before in terms of SEM images on the internet.

    I think we see a bit of a repeat performance from the previous part in Vanadis 8. The ground edge shows a clearly defined edge, homogenoues and relatively fine, with an apex just over 100 nm.

    With stropping in what I would call the widely accepted best practice, a larger burr of slightly higher (120 nm) width is raised, facing outward of the blade. The perceived sharpness of this blade is very high – we were able to record an easy hair whittling video under the microscope on this blade:

    Overstropping actually removed “a lot” of material, and refined both the apex as well as the surface finish. Nevertheless, this is a double edged sword: unless you are an OG at sharpening like Roman is, you will likely round over your apex with this approach.

    So, is stropping finally dead, this time?

    I don’t think so. This second data point adds a lot to the theory I am starting to form. Meaning, stropping raises a forward facing burr, and that burr performs better during the usual “proofs of sharpness”, such as whittling a hair or performing a BESS test. We’ve seen in part 1, that the stropped edge didn’t withstand the very limited cutting test as well. So while I still hesitate to call stropping dead, I am becoming cautiously convinced that maybe it’s not the best approach for a functional edge. More research is needed and I am willing to go down this rabbit hole.

    A future part on this series, in a couple of weeks, will look at the effect of stropping vs no stropping in a cheaper, more simple steel.

  • Musings about Material Removal – Stropping is dead… or is it? (Part 1)

    Disclaimer: This post is probably going to trigger a lot of strong opinions. I don’t mind that. If you disagree with something I state, I’d love to have you show me where I went wrong! Contact details are in the impressum. If you also just want to shout at me because you disagree, that is fine as well.

    Sharpening is a wonderfully complex and interesting process. The technique, steel and abrasive all influence the result to a major extent. Degrees of freedom and influencing factors are nearly uncountable. Moreover, the results we achieve are nearly impossible to visualise – the apex width on a sharp cutting edge is impossible to analyse with easily accessible means such as an optical microscope. For this reason, the standard approach towards quantifying sharpness, but also the methods used to sharpen a cutting edge are based on proofs of sharpness – for example, slicing through paper, splitting a hair or recording the cutting pressure on standardised tests such as a BESS test, where a test media (a nylon fibre) is cut through.

    The common approach to sharpening is to use a coarse stone to set the bevel geometry, and then use progressively finer sharpening stones to refine that apex, until as a last step, a process called “stropping” is undertaken, where the blade is dragged across a (often pliable) media, sometimes coated in loose abrasive. Now, this process can be adapted infinitely, but generalised, this is what a sharpening process entails.

    I have long been wondering, what happens during stropping. Why does it increase sharpness so dramatically, even if one strops just on the palm of ones hand or on a blank piece of leather? What is happening, at a microscopic level, to the apex?

    My good friend Roman Kasé visited me, and together we set out to discover the secrets of sharpening and stropping. If you do not know Roman, you should check out his homepage – he is a masterful artisan making wonderful knives, but also an absolute beast and OG at sharpening.

    What We Did (Experimental Setup)

    Roman and I looked at two different steels – Vanadis 8 (66 HRC) and M398 (65 HRC), both wonderful high tech powder metallurgical steels. Every steel blank was prepared in an identical way:

    Rough grinding was undertaken with an ATOMA F400 EP stone. The bevel was ground to an angle of 17 DPS, and the initial grinding was undertaken until the whole bevel was homogenous, with a clearly formed burr and no distinguishable carbide breakouts at 50x optical magnification.

    Afterwards, a progression of resin bond stones is used to refine the apex and achieve a high degree of sharpness. For this, we used my own design stones – Dr. Marv’s Scientific Sharpening stones, going through a grit progression of 80, 60, 40, 20, 10, 5, 2.5 and 1 micrometre. Each stone was employed for 2 minutes, with the exception of the 1 micrometre stone which was used for a couple of passes only.

    For the stropping, we used fresh leather strops loaded with different emulsions (Manufacturer: Stroppy Stuff) with the following approaches:

    1.) No Stropping – pure ground edge! this is our base truth to what we compare the stropping

    2.) “best practice”: 5 strokes with 1, 0.5 and 0.25 µm diamond emulsion on leather

    3.) “overstropping” – 50 strokes with the 1, 0.5 and 0.25 µm diamond emulsion.

    4.) “coarse grit” stropping – 5 strokes with 6 µm diamond emulsion.

    Approaches 1 & 2 were applied to both the Vanadis 8 and M398, whereas 3 & 4 were applied only to the M398. For M398, check it out in part 2.

    The Vanadis 8 was then used to cut 5x through a 16 mm manila rope, and wear was compared between the stropped and not-stropped blade.

    How we analysed the results:

    After sharpening, every blade was cleaned via a non contact process. For this, a steam cleaner was employed. There, heated water steam is ejected at around 3.5 bar towards the cutting edge. This can be considered a very gentle cleaning, as the force from the gas jet is very low. Afterwards, the blades are rinsed with ultra pure, analytical grade ethanol and blow dried with compressed (3.2 bar), ultra pure nitrogen gas. They are then inserted into a ultra high resolution SEM – a Zeiss GeminiSEM560 and plasma cleaned (2 min / 30W forward power). The SEM has a sub-nanometre resolution at all accelerating voltages. Images are recorded via the SE2 detector (sub 25kx magnification) and the InLens ultra high resolution SE1 detector above that magnification.

    Let’s look at the results:

    Let’s start of with the Vanadis 8 blade. This was first sharpened via my stones, and then analysed. Afterwards, we took it out, stropped it with approach #2 (see above), and analysed it again.

    Sharpened cutting edge in Vanadis8, without stropping. Note the very nicely formed apex with low burr. Instrument: Zeiss GeminiSEM560

    This is a wonderful look at the apex. A couple of things can be noted about the blade: We do have a couple of scratches, which are in the width of < 1 micrometre. The carbides are easily detectable as some very slight “bumps” across the flanks of the picture. The apex is homogeneous and very straight. Please also note the magnification of the pictures you are looking at – to get a sense of the scale, a got parameter in the databar is “width”, which shows you the width of the picture you are seeing. The maximum magnification shot you can see here features a magnification of 100kx (polaroid standard, look further down for those shots), so the picture shows you a 1.14 µm wide excerpt. This is out of this world in terms of magnification.

    Next, let’s take a look how stropping changes the edge.

    Sharpened cutting edge in vanadis 8 after stropping. Note the forward facing raised, nanometric burr. Instrument: Zeiss GeminiSEM560

    Immediately visible, even at low magnifications is the improved surface finish of the cutting bevel. The diamond definitely abraded some material!

    If we compare the two results with some measurements:

    Comparison between the two apex: Left side/first picture: no stropping. Right side/second picture: stropped apex

    It can be noted, that after stropping, a prowl shaped burr exists on the blade, that is facing straight outward at the cutting edge. This burr is significantly wider and more inhomogeneous than on the sharpened blade. The direction of the burr faces straight outward – which makes for a secondary, nanometric apex that is of a much sharper angle than the apex behind it.

    Sharpness wise, both edges easily shaved and sliced through a piece of paper. The stropped edge showed a reduced BESS reading compared to the unstropped edge.

    I’d like to also note that Romans stropping technique appears to be flawless – there is not discernible rounding of the apex here! He uses very light pressure and also lowers the angle by 0.5 DPS to compensate for the deflection of the leather.

    Let’s take a look at the blade after 5 cuts through 16 mm manila rope. For this, we first tested the stropped blade, and then resharpened with identical stone progression, checked via SEM and then cut again. Pictures of the apex were taken at the location where the cut happened::

    Vanadis 8 blade, unstropped, after 5 cuts through the 16 mm manila rope.

    Even a low amount of 5 cuts already dulls the apex noticeably. Instead of a nanometric width, there is now a roughly 1 micrometre wide apex. At some positions, some brittle breakouts of carbides are visible.

    Comparing this with the stropped edge:

    Vanadis 8 blade, stropped after taking 5 cuts through a manila rope.

    The apex is in a similar condition. It looks a bit more irregular, and folded/deformed compared to the unstropped blade.

    Comparing the two apex side by side:

    Comparison between the two used apex: Left/first picture: no stropping, right/second picture: stropped edge

    The stropped edge actually became noticeably duller/wider than the unstropped edge.

    What key takeaways are to be deduced from this?

    One point that should be made clear: The analysis of the apex is shown here for briefness sake at one location, but was homogeneous and comparable at several locations along the edge. The magnification used to show the apex here is absurdly high – very few images such as these have been openly shown on the internet, if at all.

    On this steel, and with our approach, stropping actually raised a nanometric, forward facing burr. It is undetectable by optical or (human) tactile means, as the size (both of the apex and the burr) is in the double digit nanometre range.

    The burr improved the sharpness of the blade in the usual proofs of sharpness, such as whittling a hair or slicing paper.

    After slicing just 5 cuts through manila rope, the apex has rounded over significantly. This would still be nearly undetectable with optical means, and it still felt like a very sharp knife. The stropped knife has a higher amount of apex wear than the unstropped one.

    Does this mean you should stop stropping?

    I don’t think so. This is a single data point in a single steel. Especially on steels where deburring is more difficult, stropping might behave differently. Moreover, the blade was sharpened with very specialised stones that are designed around a superior cutting action, thus further reducing burr formation.

    I think this raises more questions – especially ones such as: where does the material for this burr come from? Is this burr responsible for the perceived increase in sharpness on soft and thin materials such as paper, hair or a bess test?

    For me personally, I have stopped stropping when I started using my own stones. They produce a devilish sharp edge, with a very clearly defined apex. The increase in sharpness which can be undertaken from stropping doesn’t seem to translate into a longer lasting sharp edge. More data points for this are needed – which we will be giving in PART 2 (TBC).

  • A brief study on sharpening stones – Part 8 – Stropping Leather and Stroppy Stuff (1 Micron)

    This is part of a series of blog posts – looking into the appearance and composition of commercially available sharpening stones. If you are interested in the previous episodes, check out the archive for them.

    If you have some suggestion on what I should look at next, or want to share your super secret DIY stones, I could be persuaded to open the bag of analytical devices… hit me up on Instagram under @marvgro for that.

    Disclaimer: I’m not for sale. Every review you see on this blog is bought with my own money. I have no affiliation to any manufacturer.

    Review

    Today we’re going to take a look at 3 different leathers, and what is considered the world’s finest stropping compound – Stroppy Stuff, in the 1 micron size.

    The idea behind stropping is to refine a cutting edge. With sharpening stones, what you are doing is mostly grinding – your cutting abrasive is fixed in place. With stropping, your cutting abrasive (the compound) is able to move around, but preloaded with force – this would be considered lapping in the engineering world.

    The leather I have here is a very flesh, cheap bovine leather (sold by Schleifjunkies, a German reseller of sharpening equipment), and a thin, high end Kangaroo leather. Because I find it hard to spell, we’re going to call it Mow-leather respectively Roo-leather for the rest of the blog. The mow-leather we’re going to look at two sides, the flesh and the grain side. Because I have very little clue about which is which, I asked Max from Stroppy Stuff to identify it for me, and Lars, a sharpening ninja from Canada helped me.

    Let’s take a look at the leather under the microscope!

    Optical micrograph of the Roo-leather. Notice the fine grain and marmoration. Scale bar is visible in the lower right of each picture. Instrument: Leica Emspira.

    The Roo-Leather is very fine and thin. It flexes just barely, and has a nice, fine composition. Leather is mostly collagen fibres, which are heavily artificed via chemical processing. A good introduction to this is chapter 3 in the book “Chemical Testing of Textiles” by Q. Fan, published by Elsevier in 2005.

    Next, we’re going to take a look at the Mow-leather, the flesh side:

    Optical micrograph of the Mow-leather, flesh side. Notice the coarser overall structure, and black particles.

    It is coarser than the Roo-leather. The German reseller of this piece of leather likes to produce large, soft, junky pieces. They give a lot, so extra care needs to be taken to not push down with the edge, or convexing will inevitably happen.

    Lastly, let’s take a look at the grain side of the Mow-leather:

    Optical micrograph of the Mow-leather, grain side. Notice the coarser overall structure, and black particles.

    It is coarser than the Roo-leather, but finer than the flesh side. The black sprinkles are more visible here.

    Typically, leather is treated with stropping compound to raise the abrasive effect. Widely considered the best compound is stroppy stuff – it’s ultra high concentration (we will later see that this is true in our SEM analysis!), finely dispersed (also true!) and it is a compound that doesn’t leave you with a slimy film after it dries. I think that property alone is worth it.

    Let’s start by looking at these things under the SEM. If you are unsure about what you are seeing here, I wrote an introductory post about the SEM analysis, which explains things in depth.

    SEM micrographs of the grain side of the Schleifjunkies leather. Note the density & large prismatic particles. Instrument: Zeiss GeminiSEM560.

    The grain side of the schleifjunkies leather shows large, flat areas, intermixed with fibrous sections. In the fibrous sections, there are prismatic particles. These can be identified via EDS as calcium oxide, a chemical which is often used for treating leather. Funnily enough, some of these are a perfect representation of the crystal structure of CaO, compare the wikipedia article for a picture of that.

    EDS analysis of the leather and the particles. Instrument: Oxford Ultim Max  ∞ 40mm2 EDS sensor. Note that our EDS sensor doesn’t show elements lighter than boron.

    Let’s take a look at the flesh side, as it’s not sanded:

    SEM micrographs of the flesh side of the Schleifjunkies leather. Note the density & large prismatic particles. Instrument: Zeiss GeminiSEM560.

    This side is much coarser, with thick fibres. and large particles embedded in it. This is probably the black particles visible in the optical micrographs. I’d guess that this is SiC from the grinding processing of the leather during manufacturing.

    Let’s take a look at the Roo-leather. It’s supposed to be a much better stropping base.

    SEM micrographs of the Roo-leather. Note the overall thicker fibres. Instrument: Zeiss GeminiSEM 560.

    I’m quite surprised. instead of many small fibres, we have larger fibres, and a stacked, layered build up. Really cool! This explains why it’s so soft and yet so strong.

    A piece of this Roo-leather was treated just like Max from Stroppy Stuff is explaining in his youtube tutorial. Let’s check how well it distributes the diamonds!

    SEM micrographs of the Roo-leather, treated with 1 micron diamond compound. Note the small diamond particles. Instrument: Zeiss GeminiSEM 560.

    The distribution in the flat areas is superb. Near protrusions, we find a bit higher density. In voids, there is very little particles visible. I think his method is spot on – this is a very nice result for a mechanical distribution, if one aims for a monolayer (like one does in stropping). As the voids will not have contact with the knife edge, I do not see any deteriorate effect when the abrasive is missing here.

    I was curious to see the grain shape and size distribution of the stroppy stuff diamond emulsion, but also the concentration. For this, I placed a single drop of emulsion on a 5×5 mm silicone wafer. The emulsion was then evaporated inside a vacuum chamber (0.93×10-3 bar).

    SEM micrograph of the dried stroppy stuff emulsion. We are left with a thin layer of hydrocarbons on the silicon wafer, and the actual grains. Instrument: Zeiss GeminiSEM560.

    This is actually a really nice concentration. I did not expect this many diamonds! Cool. The diamonds are more angular than blocky, which makes them sharper. Size distribution is pretty good, with about a single digit percentage of outliers. All of them appear to be slightly oversized. I work professionally a lot with diamond powder, this is not really surprising to me at these powder sizes. I’d say this is a high quality raw diamond material, that only with lab grade diamond powder could be improved – but that would probably tripple the cost of the emulsion.

    I wanted to quickly check whether every particle is really diamond, or if there are foreign particles. But also, whether the emulsion or colour in this one left any residue that we would not want on our knife. For this, we will use EDS again.

    EDS analysis of the dried stroppy stuff 1 micron emulsion. Instrument: Oxford Ultim Max  ∞ 40mm2 EDS sensor. Note that our EDS sensor doesn’t show elements lighter than boron.

    No foreign particles or anything besides the Carbon, some oxygen (which is probably the contamination film) and the silicon wafer are detectable. This is pure goodness, and it explains why no smearing film is left after drying. Nice job!

    I’ve a couple of points to make I noticed during the analysis of the materials.

    First, the leather does not contain silicates. None. I was not able to find a single scientific source that identified silicates in the leather. Silicates are excessively used to alter the leather, make it softer, more supple and grind it. But as far as I can tell, leather contains no natural silicates. Instead, it is mostly amino acids in the form of collagen fibres. Raman laser spectroscopy supports this. (Source: Bienkiewicz, 1983 “Physical Chemistry of Leather Making”, Krieger Publishing)

    Second: I prepared the stroppy emulsion on the leather in a well ventilated room. The rest of my roo-leather was lying on a second table in this room. Still, we can find diamond particles on it:

    SEM micrograph, focusing on some diamond particle contamination on the “untreated” Roo-leather. Instrument: Zeiss GeminiSEM560.

    I think it is absolutely imperative, to keep your strops VERY separate and clean. If you have a bunch of these lying on top of each other, you are very likely introducing scratches into your sharpening.

    Third: Leather is a natural material. There seem to be massive differences in quality, and sourcing good leather also appears to be a major task.